Friday, May 27, 2011

Is God a Malevolent Serial Torturer?

I had a feeling I was heading for a bit of trouble when the question read as follows:  “Melchizadek was, like Christ, an eternal priest.”  True or False?   I answered “false” and got it wrong.   I made a mild protest over that one.  I lost. It turns out the Professor in charge of the New Testament Bible Studies curriculum and the test writer was the same one who attempted to have me expelled from seminary during a class on how to interpret the Bible. Interpret literally, whenever possible, was what he taught us.  The reason for his attempt to have me expelled was for not acknowledging that God would send any of his children to eternal torment, with no hope for escape ever, as a “just” payment for sins.  I argued in a forum designed for debating issues that eternal torment was not justice, not for anything done in a short lifetime and backed it up with scriptures, logic and plenty of real life examples and scenarios. 
  
Now this Professor knew all about Melchizadek; he was an “expert” on the book of Hebrews and took it all literally.  Advice:  watch out for people who can tell you all about Melchizadek!  Anyway, if you were to put hard questions to this Professor on anything, even politely, he would become somewhat belligerent, acting as if the person questioning needed to be quiet and learn the material.  But if he perceived that you had bested him in any exchange, then he would put you up for disciplinary action for disrespect.  One wasn't allowed to best the big man in any debate or exchange!  I wasn’t the only one, that’s for sure.  A lot of those students were a tad smarter than me, and better debaters.  Some would buckle a little easier though, on occasion, and apologize.  Others would just stop debating.  And others would continue, fearlessly, and some did pay the price for “crossing the line.”  But it’s not about that.  In any case, I believe God saw to it that the dean saw things my way when he refused to expel me.  From his personal response to me it seemed he was a closet Christian Universalist even!  But, alas, his job was at stake and to admit that would leave him unemployed.  Months later, the Professor was still seething with rage that I wasn’t expelled.  I have his email response to a question I put to him about an upcoming class and it’s nasty.  It seems this man resembles the god that he serves.  Now I’m not judging him.  Judging means condemning someone to eternal torment and that’s exactly what millions of church folks implicitly do when they let that doctrine go unchallenged or outright support it, especially.  

I suppose me not letting this New Testament Professor walk all over me with all his 350 pounds of doctorate bulk might have had something to do with his failed attempt to expel me.  Would the Christian thing to do have been to silently let him fill our heads with nonsense?  No, I don’t think so.  There is a time to speak up without fear of the consequences a human can deal to us, even if the hammer is going to potentially seriously drop.  It is my belief that the time to speak up is when people attempt to brainwash you with a view of God as cruel, vicious, vindictive and so bloodthirsty that his wrath will never be satisfied forever and ever.   In any case, this Professor attempted to force me acknowledge the Bible taught eternal torment.  He asked me to substitute the word “hell” for “death” in Romans 6:23, meaning eternal torment.  The reason being was, in his mind, that if God sentences a human to eternal torment then it must be just.  Whether it said death or hell or torture or anything didn’t matter to him.  Why?  Because he is God, that’s why.  If God says something is just, it must be just.  Just like that.  I refused.

Didn’t Paul tell us to “test everything” and “hold onto what is good?”  What is good about everlasting torment?  Dump the doctrine, I say, and rejoice in the merciful arms of the Lord as we know he welcomes all his children home – sooner or later.  Sometimes it might be a lot later!  That’s up to God.  Punishments all must have a purpose or they are cruelty.  That purpose cannot be revenge either.  I think even my dog understands this.
 
Isn’t God more merciful than human beings?  Isn’t it actually human beings who have done relatively merciless things (maybe not approaching the horror of everlasting torture) and then on occasion attributed them to God?  “Kill them all!”  (said God)  But did God really say this?  “Save the virgins for yourselves,” saith the Lord.   Did God really say that?  Or did humans say that God told them to do it.  I wasn’t there, but that sounds like human sinfulness in war and brings to mind more recent events such as the rape of Nanking.  Did God tell the Japanese troops to do that to the Chinese civilians of Nanking?  If you are brave and have a strong stomach, just google that one for a seriously bloodcurdling account of human evil.  I’ve had people in church tell me of the genocides in the Old Testament:  “yep, that was a brutal time…brutal!”  And some of them have a little twinkle in their eye, a knowing security that they are the chosen and will never be on the receiving end of any stripes or any fire like the non-elect.     

Anyway, just because something happened 3000 years ago in a brutal time period doesn’t lessen the horror of it at all.  Thanks be to God I don’t have to believe the accounts of slaughter in Numbers, Joshua, and Judges were commanded by God.  If someone else wants to believe this then that’s fine, but we’re talking about the God of the universe here, commanding puny humans to stab and slaughter each other and demanding all kinds of things be killed.  Let the blood flow!!  What insanity is that!  It leads to our view of God though.  Is God benevolent?  Is God love, as the Bible testifies?  Did Jesus show us what God is like?  Did he go around telling the Jews to slaughter every Roman in sight?  Couldn’t he have?  Maybe that would be a little more justified than the slaughter of the Canaanites who had never lifted a finger against the invading Hebrew hordes, wouldn’t it?  If God wanted to give them the land, why couldn’t he take the mighty hand of God and thrust them out of the land to live in peace instead of all that gore?  Slay them!!   What a load we’ve been fed to imagine that the Lord Jesus was behind any of this slaughter and killing.    

And now let’s return to consider the even worse fate of eternal torment.  Let’s try to think of one man who might sentence his children to everlasting torture to no purpose.  Imagine this man is invisible.  One day, he appears to his children who didn’t believe in him because they couldn’t see him so he impales each one with a pitchfork.  But you see, this man is an immortal, powerful magician and has the power to keep his children alive so they can suffer and not die.  For not believing in him, this man allows his children to writhe on the pitchforks for days.  Days turn into months.  Months into years.  The pain never ends and the man is never satisfied that the punishment is enough, that justice has been fulfilled.  Since he is smarter and more powerful, this action of his must be correct and it must be accepted.  

This is pretty similar to the satanic doctrine of eternal torment.  Maybe someone who would actually do this, if he had the power would be an insane serial killer?  Perhaps someone like John Wayne Gacy or Ted Bundy.  Or the Green River Killer.  But what’s striking there is even these evil murderers eventually put their victims out of their misery.  The Green River Killer even said “I didn’t torture ‘em.”  The BTK killer talked of “putting his victims down” after he had punished them for a time.  

Terrible, terrible, heinously evil acts these men did.  But their victims are suffering no more.  The Nazis put the Jews in ovens, experimented on them and so forth, often in agonizing ways.  But their suffering is thankfully over.  Or…is it?   According to the doctrine of eternal torment, the victims may have never believed in Jesus for some reason or another.  The Jews horribly massacred by the millions in the holocaust certainly didn’t – at least, the vast majority.  Maybe other people who were victims of killers were abused, weren’t born in the right neighborhood or any number of understandable reasons.  If that was the case, those victims of the killers are looking forward to a much worse fate:  torture that NEVER ENDS!!  No rest, day or night – Revelation is taken literally.  Tossed alive into a lake where they can burn and experience the anguish of burning, but not ever have it relieved, ever!  Can anyone really, truly believe this without putting up a huge wall in their brain blocking out how horrific this insane doctrine really is?  And people go and sing praises to this being on Sunday?  What’s wrong with this picture?   

What is wrong is the doctrine of eternal conscious torment.  It's wrong because it maligns the nature of God and prevents people from coming to him.  This prevents them from doing good works and following Jesus because they hate God.  They reject the eternal torturer, understandably!  Marx, Lenin, and Friedrich Nietzsche all said that they rejected the Christian God because of the doctrine of hell.  Think of the horrific influence these men have had on millions of people.  Even if not directly responsible, Lenin led to Stalin and Stalin bears responsibility for the deaths of millions of people.  The doctrine is satanic and the fruit it has borne, for one, was Joseph Stalin.

Thank God that he is not a malevolent divine serial torturer.  If he were, we would ALL be in big trouble!  God is not a demon from the pits of “hell.”  That is utterly unthinkable.  And thank God, it is not true.  God is LOVE.  Believe it!  Therefore, we’re ALL in for a royal, wonderful surprise because our God is benevolent and he is awesome, all-powerful and all-loving.  It is true that we sometimes create our own bit of hell on earth sometimes and this is designed to strengthen us spiritually.  It may also serve to make us all the more appreciative of the infinite mercy of God and the eternal life that he has in store for ALL his creatures after a life of sickness, turmoil or other heavy burden is ended.  God will have all men be saved, Paul says to Timothy.  Romans 5 uses an exact parallel to describe how what “Adam” (that is, sin) does is reversed by Christ.  And to a much greater degree!   

 For those of us who think of persons who have done great evil in this life, God does promise justice will be meted out, but the punishment will fit the crime.  I can think of no crime that would warrant eternal conscious torment.  Maybe tormenting someone for all eternity.  That might warrant eternal conscious torment, in which case that god would go off the high dive (picture that in a Chick tract) into the lake of fire himself.  One last thought – if the punishment for sin is eternal conscious torment, and Jesus had to suffer the due punishment – why is Jesus not writhing about in the flames even as we speak?  He would have to, if that were the just penalty.  Of course, there’s nothing just about eternal conscious torment.  We need not fear any of our loved ones are being tormented by God.  Instead, they are in his care and we can trust him because he is merciful and kind. 

Be not afraid, says Jesus, it is I – I am always with you!!  We can all rest in this knowledge.  This is one reason to share this truly good news.  It can remove all that horrible anxiety and depression people might have, thinking about the fate of “lost” loved ones.  Remember, God loves those people and he is going to take care of them and do what is best for them because they are his children.  God, being the perfect parent, will see to it that they receive fair and merciful treatment designed for their benefit until they come back home and he comes running to them with arms wide open like the Father in the prodigal son parable.  May we not be like the eldest son in that parable, annoyed that God is merciful and infinitely forgiving!  Even with the eldest son sulking, the Father said to him:  “everything I have is yours!”  

God bless!
David     

2 comments:

  1. Amen! Preach, Preach, Preach the Victorious Good News of Jesus Christ! It is finished! Done! All is Well!

    I've run across people like your professor a LOT of times regarding this ET subject. Look at how God fought your battle, he always does. They act just like the God they have created for themselves, a false god and not the Most High God at all. This unforgiving and hateful God they serve, makes them the exact same way.

    I have had people ban me on forums just because I 'defied' them and their VERY SATANIC views regarding punishment. It is truly SATANIC and not of God at all.

    I love your Spirit. There are times when we must stand up for what is right regardless of the cost, I so agree with that. We need more people willing to do just that!

    GBU!

    Alicia

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  2. Thank you Alicia! Amen to that! Yes, the doctrine is just about as satanic as anything can be - definitely not of God! I think we are gaining ground in reclaiming the image of God as not being a vicious, bloodthirsty devil who tortures his own children forever in recent months especially - but, there's a lot of people who are just going to hold onto it and act like it really doesn't matter.

    It's fear...really, I know good people who think if they dump the doctrine, everything else is going to go like dominoes and they will lose their faith (and in their minds, possibly their salvation)...a few wretched English translations really make me cringe too because those people can't get those few verses out of their mind, and they have to believe the bible literally or else the domino effect happens to them.

    It's really sad - an incredibly hard stronghold in the mind to break. I'm trying to be more gentle and pray more about it, depending on who it is I'm discussing about it. I was surprised the other week when at a Bible study people were really intently listening to the message of universal reconciliation. Only two out of the 10 or so people there totally refused to consider any other option than eternal torment, which was a real surprise. I could see the struggle people have with hell, especially people who are really, really in love with their English Bibles and take them literally, or else!

    Then there are so many folks who will just put the doctrine on the shelf and act like it doesn't matter. They're really in serious denial, but if they express doubts, they risk losing church friends and in their minds again, their faith and salvation. It's a terrible trap, eternal torment. It's satanic as you put it, in capital letters!! SATANIC! You know, that really gets the eternal torment folks attention, when you call it satanic. I think that's a good thing to do. Call it like it is!! God bless you!

    David

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